Tuesday, March 22, 2016

Islam without Sharia



planks length said...

I weep for Europe right now. I am so sick of the massed candlelight memorials, the calls for "calm" and "let's not start blaming Islam", etc. We are witnessing (here! in our lifetimes!) the death of a 2,500 year old civilization, once called "Western". It's over, dead, ended, finis, a goner, moribund, stinking and rotting away. At this point, there is sadly no plausible hope for its revival. The plummeting birthrates (far below replacement levels), coupled with the disastrous one-two punch of continental apostasy alongside an Islamic invasion (a.k.a., "refugee crisis"), have pretty much determined the now inevitable final outcome. My one prayer is that Poland (and everything east of it) may be spared the continental catastrophe. (There is still a glimmer of hope there.)

Our own continent is possibly next, but there seems to be (at least for now) greater resistance here to the disease.

And for all you atheists out there reading this and smugly shaking your heads, your fate will be even worse than for Christians. Are you aware of how majority-Muslim societies treat atheists? (Hint: It ain't pretty!)

Ilíon said...

On the other hand, *many* so-called atheists won't have that great a problem with converting from worshipping their own libidos to worshipping the demon Allah, especially as they'll then have sanction to do most of the foul deeds they're always wanted to do.

Ilíon said...

"Islam without Sharia"

Not even on the table. Mohammadan "extremists" are often the children of Moslems who already practice an "Islam without Sharia".

Mohammadan "extremists" *are* the "Islamic Reformation".

Bill said...

Interesting, but I don't see how there can be Islam without sharia. Sharia is essential to Islam. It is sharia that defines Islam.

Of course it is entirely possible to have Islam without fundamentalist sharia. There are 8 different schools (bodies) of law in the Islamic world (iirc) and the dominant school is pluralistic and relatively benign. The extremist fundamentalists (which is what usually come to mind when people hear the word "sharia") are a tiny (but dangerous and growing) minority.

Ilíon said...

"Of course it is entirely possible to have Islam without fundamentalist sharia."

Well, actually, no it isn't. Here is a story about what happens to slam without fundamentalist sharia.

Like most people, you seem to ignorant about what "fundamentalist" means. It isn't some swear word, and it isn't even an effective put-down -- since when is, "Oh, poor chap, he takes his beliefs seriously" an embarrassment to those who take their belief seriously.

"There are 8 different schools (bodies) of law in the Islamic world (iirc) and the dominant school is pluralistic and relatively benign."

IF any Moslems have seemed "pluralistic and relatively benign" for roughly the past two centuries, it is only because the West was militarily too strong -- and unafraid to use the strength -- for them to consider getting up to their usual antics.

B. Prokop said...

Christ is risen!

Not a proposition, not an argument, not a "doctrine", but a proclamation. Khristos voskrese! Alleluia!

It's like reading the news. It's what happened, and I'm telling you about it.

But, in the words of C.S. Lewis, "the voices of those who have not joy [rise] howling and chattering."

"It's all a myth," they say. "It was never meant to be taken literally. It's a barefaced lie - the Apostles just made it up. The women went to the wrong tomb. The disciples stole the body. His appearances were the result of wishful thinking. It was mass hallucination. There never was a tomb to be empty in the first place. Jesus never existed. He merely swooned, but didn't die - he simply came to. The story was embellished over time. It was just a "spiritual" resurrection - a metaphor. Jesus had a twin brother. Jesus was a time traveler. Jesus was a space alien."

Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, my... I won't even go to the bother of refuting all of these one by one. If you're truly interested and not just trolling, name your favored "alternate explanation" to a literal, historical, bodily, verifiable Resurrection, and I'll blow it out of the water. Because they're all not only false - they're impossible. "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" (Sherlock Holmes)

And never forget, resurrection does not mean resuscitation, but rather a New Creation - it's not the old life back again (as in the case, for example, of Lazarus - who would only die once more) but Eternal Life. "Behold, I am doing something new!" (Isaiah 43:39)

(Just got home from Easter Vigil Mass at my parish church. They do the Big Feast Days right there - this evening's service was a record breaker, at 2 hours 40 minutes long. My feet hurt.)

Jezu ufam tobie!