Friday, November 07, 2008

Sin and Stupidity

A Jewish perspective.


Ilíon said...

Stupidity is not the same thing as folly.

Stupidity isn't a choice -- if one is indeed stupid, then one is stupid, and there's no help for it. Folly, on the other hand, is a choice.

Randy said...


1. the state or quality of being foolish; lack of understanding or sense.

1. the state, quality, or fact of being stupid.

By the way, Victor, it might be very interesting to take a look at the different ways Jews and Christians view sin. Unfortunately, the article you linked to didn't provide much substance.

It was interesting to see how differently the writer of that article interpreted the letter of complaint. I found the letter to be intentionally funny.

Perhaps the writer of that letter is really not as stupid as the writer of the article thinks?

Ilíon said...

Which, of course, explains why you will not mind that I call you a fool?

normajean said...

I wonder if Illion is a fool

Ron said...

I think this is on track. Sin is stupid because God judges each of us in the end. That's why a man who cheats, lies and steals his way to prosperity may be successful in all his earthly days, but is ultimately lost. The eternal perspective is essential.

Ilíon said...
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Ilíon said...

NormaJean: "I wonder if Illion is a fool."

No, Ilíon is not a fool.

On the other hand, NormaJean gives many indications of being a fool.

You children need to make up your minds. Is an accusation of folly a moral claim -- specifically, that folly is an immoral choice -- as I have said, or is folly morally neutral, being merely "lack of understanding," as you children are pretending to be saying.

And the pretense -- for you don't even believe what you are saying -- is so obvious: "I wonder if Illion is a fool."

Really, children! You need to learn to think two thoughts ahead if you hope ever to get the jump. The whole point of my question to Randy was to get you children to give the lie to the silly assertion that folly is merely "lack of understanding."

normajean said...


"it takes one to know one."
"i know you are but what am I?"
"sticks and stones."

Ilíon said...

I think we all have figured out that you choose to have a childish mindset.