Thursday, November 23, 2006
And who were they thanking?
This is an article from the Arizona Republic. Apparently schools today are supposed to portray Thanksgiving in a historically accurate way. But you'll notice that the article says nary a word about who the Pilgrims were thanking. If anything, it looks like they were thanking the Indians. In fact, I've seen a fifth grade textbook that says exactly that. I'm afraid this is political correctness run amok. If we want accuracy, then we should at the very least tell the kids that the Pilgrims were devout Christians who were thanking, um, um, you know....God.
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Hilarious! And I quite agree too.
I am very close to doing banning Steven, in fact. He makes no attempt to do anything except ridicule Christianity. There's no attempt to see what good points might be made by Christians, we are all fools pure and simple, even those of us who have advanced degrees from secular universities.
The people who should be most bothered by Steven should be, in my view, his fellow atheists. I was particularly offended by his character assassination against Montgomery (who is not by any means a personal favorite) and his incredibly twisted reading of "Man or Rabbit," an essay which, even though written by Lewis, he should have pretty much agreed with knowing his views.
Everyone makes mistakes, and loses their temper, or is too long-winded, etc. And if I ban one person, where to I draw the line? I don't want to go Vallicella's way, although I respect his for doing things the way he does them. It's his blog, and this is mine. And that's just the point. I think I have shown that I am capable of seeing the perspectives of others. Not everyone seems capable of doing that.
So I will give him a last warning. Make a serious contribution to the discussion that goes beyond ridicule and contributes to the pursuit of the truth. If this Carr can't be repaired, it will be junked.
I think Victor is claiming that it ridicules Christians by pointing out how wrong it is to portray them as thanking the people who helped them, rather than God.
I was agreeing with his claim that it is revisionism to depict the Pilgrims as thanking the Indians, rather than God.
When did I call Christians 'fools', let alone 'fools, pure and simple'?
I hope Victor will back up his claim.
Perhaps Victor will stand by Christian claims on this forum that apologists like Montgomery are 'ignorant'.
I quote a Christian commentator 'Bilbo' - 'Indeed, its pretty obvious that Montgomery was ignorant of the facts concerning Pilate here'.
What rebuke does Victor give to Christians who call speakers at apologetics conferences 'ignorant'?
I assume that such discourse is reasonable comment and does not come under the category of the 'character assasination' of Montgomery that Victor so deplored?
Steven: That's enough. I'm banning you from my blog. There are plenty of atheists already commenting here who represent atheism far more competently than you do here. You have your own blog where you can say whatever you want.
I do not have to defend this, and will not.
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