Friday, October 13, 2017

The testability of scientism

What science cannot discover, mankind cannot know?

No chance. 

The statement I quoted from Russell above is obviously self-refuting. It is not a scientifically testable claim, so if it is true, it cannot be known to be true.

6 comments:

Starhopper said...

Part of the reason why I love the movie Hail, Caesar! is that the main character, struggling over whether to accept a job offer that will totally change his life, rather than laying out a "scientific" case of the pros and cons of each alternative, prays the Rosary and goes to Confession before making his decision.

The scientific method is not always the most appropriate way to learn something.

Atno said...

>scientism
>2017

Well, to be fair, it took logical positivists some two decades for them to finally realize their position was insane and obviously false.

brownmamba said...

"Part of the reason why I love the movie Hail, Caesar! is that the main character, struggling over whether to accept a job offer that will totally change his life, rather than laying out a "scientific" case of the pros and cons of each alternative, prays the Rosary and goes to Confession before making his decision.

The scientific method is not always the most appropriate way to learn something."


Religious people go completely overboard with the idea that "we can know things that are not proven by science". Just because we can know things to a reasonable degree without the scientific method, doesn't mean everything goes. The above is a perfect example. Consider another example: Studying for an exam beats praying the rosary, every time.



Starhopper said...

Studying for an exam beats praying the rosary, every time.

Of course it does. That's precisely why I wrote "The scientific method is not always the most appropriate way to learn something." That implies there are times when it is. Are you saying that the SM is always the most appropriate way?

(And by the way, as far as preparing for an exam, I have found through experience that both study and prayer is the best course of action. Beats just one or the other every time.)

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

Religious people go completely overboard with the idea that "we can know things that are not proven by science". Just because we can know things to a reasonable degree without the scientific method, doesn't mean everything goes. The above is a perfect example. Consider another example: Studying for an exam beats praying the rosary, every time.

there are some religious people who don't think everything can be known through religious belief.

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

al said...
On a related note, Edward Feser is going to be giving a talk on scientism at UC Berkely next Thursday. Registration for the talk is HERE.

I've signed up and am looking forward to hearing his take on this topic.

take note, a,e a report, i can't go to Berkeley right now.