Tuesday, June 14, 2016

Woody Guthrie's Jesus Christ

Sung by Merle Haggard.  Woody's Jesus is not a Republican.

31 comments:

Joe Hinman said...

ah man I haven heard that song in 20 years. 'Guthrie was Jewish so he's not going to have a Baptist take on Jesus. but his Jesus was a good guy a revolutionary cared for the poor killed and stayed dead.

B. Prokop said...

Woody's best song ever was "This Land is Your Land". I remember singing it in music class at Loloma Elementary School, circa 1962, like it was yesterday.

Still love that tune.

Ilíon said...

Guthrie was a communist and an apologist for leftist mass-murder ... so, yeah, his "Jesus" is not going to be a Republican ... nor alive.

Joe Hinman said...

Guthrie was a communist and an apologist for leftist mass-murder ..

that's why I like him.,

Victor Reppert said...

Who did Jesus throw out of the temple? The homosexuals, right?

Ilíon said...

Who did Jesus tell to "go and sin no more"? The people who were not sinning, right?

Ilíon said...

Who (among others) will Jesus "throw into Hell"? Unrepentant practitioners of homosexuality

Ilíon said...

... which seems to be to be a bit more extreme than merely chasing someone from the Temple.

Joe Hinman said...

Who (among others) will Jesus "throw into Hell"? Unrepentant practitioners of homosexuality

Democrats and undocumented workers hu?"

Joe Hinman said...

Who (among others) will Jesus "throw into Hell"? Unrepentant practitioners of homosexuality

Um let's see/ I was sick and you visited me...sheep and goats...those who did not visit the sick

those who did not visit prisoners


those who did not help hungry

In other words, Republicans.

Joe Hinman said...

which seems to be to be a bit more extreme than merely chasing someone from the Temple

the only people ZI see him damming to hell are right wingers and republicans. those who murder the poor.

Legion of Logic said...

What about Democrats who murder the poor?

B. Prokop said...

Joe,

The Lord God of Hosts has clearly, explicitly, and succinctly informed us that He does not takes sides in our political debates (Luke 12:13-14). He is neither Democrat not Republican, Libertarian nor Green, socialist not capitalist, monarchist nor (lower case) republican. He favors neither the left wing nor the right.

Jezu ufam tobie!

Joe Hinman said...

he Lord God of Hosts has clearly, explicitly, and succinctly informed us that He does not takes sides in our political debates (Luke 12:13-14). He is neither Democrat not Republican, Libertarian nor Green, socialist not capitalist, monarchist nor (lower case) republican. He favors neither the left wing nor the right.

nope totally absolutely wrong.first it is clearly not I who am urging partition parties. It's mr right wing.the guy who said cant be a Christian if you aren't republican secondly.

God takes sides in politics.

the fist time I argue with y'all I put u 50 passages you totally ignored them.'god likes the poor,
god helps the poor God is on side of the poor not parties but teh poor. that;s real Dodn't think you know what being a christian is about.

Joe Hinman said...

What about Democrats who murder the poor?

who? where? they don;'t cut food stamps they cut social benkifits they don't pass categories eligibility they don't withdraw from participation on programs like Republican governors o\dp.

Joe Hinman said...

Luke 12:13-14).



3 Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”

14 Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you?”

nothing at all to do with politics. when it;s convent for you guys to ignore passages that clearly are analogous to government taxing rich you totally pretend it has nothing to do with it;s it about private charity ,this has nothing at to do wiht government you pretender make like it does.

Joe Hinman said...

Mt 23:23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law, justice and mercy and faith; these you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.
23:24 You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!

The word tithe represents 1/10 of a person's income is donated to God.

When we neglect justice, mercy and faith and follow human rules, we are like straining the gnat from the camel. The Apostle James gives us this example of mercy and justice when it pertains to those who are hungry.
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day,
2:16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?
2:17 So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Legion of Logic said...

Link showing that Republicans murder the poor, backed by death rate statistics under Democrats and Republicans?

Legion of Logic said...

Also Democrats are doing absolutely nothing about illegal immigration, and according to studies, illegal immigration drives down wages among the most uneducated and unskilled workers - the poor. Democrats are actively promoting policies that drive down wages among the poor.

Let's be clear, I'm not a Republican and I despise the Republican Party. However, I am always baffled from a Christian or ethical standpoint when someone stands up and says that one of the parties is good and the other is bad. Both parties suck beyond belief, and neither party has some sort of monopoly on being more "righteous".

Take away the parties themselves and analyze strictly from a belief comparison between right and left, and the same pattern arises. Neither spectrum is "good" while the other is "bad".

Instead, what we find is that everyone has their hot-button issues that they are more concerned with on a moral basis than all the other issues, thus the party that they agree with must therefore be "good" and the other party is immoral. Pure BS, of course, but such is the human mind.

Ilíon said...

some leftist who knows but won't yet admit that leftism is Satanic: "The Lord God of Hosts has clearly, explicitly, and succinctly informed us that He does not takes sides in our political debates (Luke 12:13-14). He is neither Democrat not Republican, Libertarian nor Green, socialist not capitalist, monarchist nor (lower case) republican. He favors neither the left wing nor the right."

Why do you continue to be so intellectually dishonest? Why do you continue to misrepresent that passage? Why do you continue to play "A Pox on Both Their Houses" so as to avoid admitting that *you* have spent a huge part of your life supporting the Party of Satan?

God most certainly does take an interest in our politics, and he does "take sides" -- this nation is under judgment-and-condemnation because of the leftist/progressive politics that most Americans -- including *you* and almost all other Catholics -- have been content to be bribed to wink at; most notably, abortion, and confiscatory taxation so as to bribe the electorate.

Contrary to the amorphous fear of some that "God is gonna get us" because our rulers have decreed "gay" mirage, that our rulers have decreed that is part of the condemnation being visited upon us.

Joe Hinman said...

Link showing that Republicans murder the poor, backed by death rate statistics under Democrats and Republicans?

June 16, 2016 5:39 AM

both parties suck parties suck politics sux. Politics I s city of man. Politics not city of God. but of the two the Reps really want to hurt poor and unis them for beingpoor Demos don[t.

Ilíon said...

LoL: "However, I am always baffled from a Christian or ethical standpoint when someone stands up and says that one of the parties is good and the other is bad. Both parties suck beyond belief, and neither party has some sort of monopoly on being more "righteous"."

Both parties suck in this way -- one party is actively evil and one party is ... conflicted.

LoL: "Take away the parties themselves and analyze strictly from a belief comparison between right and left, and the same pattern arises. Neither spectrum is "good" while the other is "bad"."

This is false; one is temped to be cute and say, "false beyond belief". Leftism is morally evil, it is wicked, it is the enemy of God and of mankind; rightism is not.

Joe Hinman said...


June 16, 2016 5:39 AM

Blogger Legion of Logic said...
Also Democrats are doing absolutely nothing about illegal immigration, and according to studies, illegal immigration drives down wages among the most uneducated and unskilled workers - the poor. Democrats are actively promoting policies that drive down wages among the poor.

Illegal immigration is not a problem. if some of then are criminals that's just humanity for our own guys are criminals too. most of them are not and the rate of illegal is declining and hardly any of them convicted of big crimes. Increase in come nt to to illegals. they are necessary to the economy




Let's be clear, I'm not a Republican and I despise the Republican Party. However, I am always baffled from a Christian or ethical standpoint when someone stands up and says that one of the parties is good and the other is bad. Both parties suck beyond belief, and neither party has some sort of monopoly on being more "righteous".


I don't say that > I say the Demos lesser evil in social terms.


Take away the parties themselves and analyze strictly from a belief comparison between right and left, and the same pattern arises. Neither spectrum is "good" while the other is "bad".

in terms of harming they poor they are. the poor are special case because they are total victims they do the work they do they grunt stuff they servant stuff and they reap thy negative results including dying sooner,

Instead, what we find is that everyone has their hot-button issues that they are more concerned with on a moral basis than all the other issues, thus the party that they agree with must therefore be "good" and the other party is immoral. Pure BS, of course, but such is the human mind.

June 16, 2016 5:56 AM

republican issues revolve around protecting the rich and making money

Joe Hinman said...

LoL: "However, I am always baffled from a Christian or ethical standpoint when someone stands up and says that one of the parties is good and the other is bad. Both parties suck beyond belief, and neither party has some sort of monopoly on being more "righteous"."

Both parties suck in this way -- one party is actively evil and one party is ... conflicted.


you are the genus who defines the OT as a blue print for government so I shuttered to think of your idea of evil. your definition of actively evil includes having what" black president? helping the poor wanting to reinstate Glass Stegal and stop global warming.

issue for issue the Reps are always regressive worshiping guns demand total allegiance to wealthy ,want to deny the poor basic rights and care.


LoL: "Take away the parties themselves and analyze strictly from a belief comparison between right and left, and the same pattern arises. Neither spectrum is "good" while the other is "bad"."

look at what the bible says abut the poor. compare that to the records of the two parties no contest the DEmos are far b=better in terms of God's concern for poor.

This is false; one is temped to be cute and say, "false beyond belief". Leftism is morally evil, it is wicked, it is the enemy of God and of mankind; rightism is not.

the subversion of the /gospel to political ends of the rich and powerful is evil. period. I don't serve the interest of your masters that make devil in a negative world where wealth is the major value.

Joe Hinman said...

do you think dems are evil for supporting gay rights and feminism> suppressing women is evil what the conservative church has done to women is evil. the quiver full of bull hit is evil.

rationalizing and sanctifying the 5xrule is evil

5xrule = accrss the boared poor are 5x more likley7 to:

*go to prison'
*be alcoholics
*die by age of one
*die 20 years before they rich do

and more

Ilíon said...

I wonder -- how will B.Prokop react when the realization dawns on him that trying to reason with Joe Hinman (*) is like trying to reason with a dumbed-down and functionally illiterate version of himself from perhaps three years ago?



(*) or, for that matter, simply *read* his posts

Legion of Logic said...

"you are the genus who defines the OT as a blue print for government so I shuttered to think of your idea of evil. your definition of actively evil includes having what" black president? helping the poor wanting to reinstate Glass Stegal and stop global warming."

Not once did I do anything even remotely like this. I said quite the opposite, in rhetorical question form - trying to apply the Mosaic law to the unrighteous and secular United States government is cherry picking. Here is my statement to prove it.

"What nations are commanded to give? Or are we simply cherry picking the Mosaic law and applying it to the explicitly unrighteous government of the secular United States trying to justify a union between Christianity and the political left, which despises Christianity?"

Also, your gratuitous accusation of racism is exactly why I will never, ever support the political left. You guys are brainwashed into believing that anyone who disagrees with you is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, Islamophobic, or whatever other ist or phobic the left will invent tomorrow. Conservatives HATE THE POOR!! WAR ON WOMEN!! PUT BLACKS BACK IN CHAINS!!!!! Yeah, no.

You can quote me where I said anything about a "black president" being a problem, or you can acknowledge that bringing it up as a topic was completely uncalled for. Otherwise I have to chalk this up as yet another example of a leftist being a bigot toward conservatives.

Joe Hinman said...

I wonder -- how will B.Prokop react when the realization dawns on him that trying to reason with Joe Hinman (*) is like trying to reason with a dumbed-down and functionally illiterate version of himself from perhaps three years ago?


he really jeans two things when he says:reason: me means agreement. if you don't agree with his view you are hot reasoning. secondly, when is views are sown up for the mindless rationalizations they are then he starts getting testy and wants to isssue little proclamations about the other guy;s reasoning and litearcy.

Let's talk about literacy. in 1973 I started ij high school debate. I carried a file drawer with a couple of thousand quotes in index cards (3x5) and I read the all. most of them were about poverty because the topics were about annual income and employment of poor. I went ton to debar for four years in college and we debated land use, product safety, felony crimes and employment again. IN all of that i noticed a trend time and time again poor suffer effects such that one is 5x worse off non poor. they die sooner, they have a lot more problems. our

You little Juror Reagan wants to think I',alliteration because I hand;t been brain washed by his masters.which is more illiterate? The one who actually studies and reads hundreds of scientific studies and evidence and spends 40 years researching those topics as I have, or the one who reads sociological drivel of a right bent never being exposed to contrary view.?

Idion is far too upset with my views for us to think he ever get's exposed to counter views

he knows he can't compete with my command of the facts.

Joe Hinman said...

"you are the genus who defines the OT as a blue print for government so I shuttered to think of your idea of evil. your definition of actively evil includes having what" black president? helping the poor wanting to reinstate Glass Stegal and stop global warming."

Not once did I do anything even remotely like this. I said quite the opposite, in rhetorical question form - trying to apply the Mosaic law to the unrighteous and secular United States government is cherry picking. Here is my statement to prove it.


I think I was talking to Idion

Joe Hinman said...

I see it up there I didn't put them naje and I think I got conjfussed as to who Iwas talking to, sorry

Legion of Logic said...

Ah, then my apologies as well.