A commentator over at Debunking Christianity wrote:
In fact this whole "rational faith" is pretty new for me. I was raised in a catholic school and no priest ever told me that there's "historical proof" for the resurrection and the virgin birth. These things are faith issues, you accept them or you don't. No reason required or even allowed.
On the other hand, fideism was declared to be heresy by Vatican I. This is the entry from the Catholic Encyclopedia.
And, finally, the Vatican Council teaches as a dogma of Catholic faith that "one true God and Lord can be known with certainty by the natural light of human reason by means of the things that are made".
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Oh don't even get me started on the failure of American Catholic Religious education........
It's only good for two things making Protestants and Atheists.
Notice how Victor switches the commentators conversation about the resurrection and the virgin birth, and , Victor-like, completely fails to hear what other people say, and substitutes his own reality where the commentator had been talking about the existence of God.
I beg to differ. It seems to me that "one true God and Lord can be known" very much suggests that not only can we know that God exists, but also that he is the way catholics say he is and does/did the things catholics say he does/did.
When you hear a former Catholic utter the phrase "I was raised in a Catholic school," you can bet that the following will be the most ignorant stereotyping of Catholic belief.
Steven Carr,
The commenter says that he was ignorant of "rational faith." Presumably, he was ignorant of the Catholic position that the existence of God can be known by natural reason.
He offers two examples that he says have to be taken on faith. As far as I know, neither of them are inaccessible to reason, since they are based on historical evidence.
Things that the Catholic church teaches have to be taken on faith, include the Trinity.
So, I don't think Victor made a non sequitur point.
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