Sunday, January 10, 2010

Arizona Cardinals 51, Green Bay Packers 45

An epic battle. Next opponents: the New Orleans Saints.

14 comments:

philip m said...

Terrible. Absolutely terrible. You got away with one, there. BLAH BAGLKASDGHASLDGKJSALGJKSA so mad.

But I do not hold a grudge, and I do hope the Cardinals win it all this year. I was quite disappointed they lost last year.

Steven said...

Hell yeah man

It was a good game.

But I stinkin' missed the overtime. I heard on the TV that the Packers won the toss, and I had to be somewhere and I was already late, so I just left--but before I even got in my car and left they had won the game!

Blue Devil Knight said...

Great game. I stopped watching at halftime, luckily I tuned back in at the end of the fourth quarter. Kurt Warner was amazing.

The Patriots, on the other hand, played like they didn't deserve (or want) to be there (excepting Edelman and a few others).

Victor Reppert said...

The Packers strike me as more impressive than the Vikings at this stage of the season. Rodgers and Warner were amazing. I expect Dallas to beat Minnesota. I don't know whether the Saints up to the Patriots game will show up, or the Saints after the Patriots game will show up, but I expect high scoring once again. But I am picking Dallas and Arizona to land in the NFC championship game (slightly biased).

Robert said...

Hello Victor,

"I expect Dallas to beat Minnesota. I don't know whether the Saints up to the Patriots game will show up, or the Saints after the Patriots game will show up, but I expect high scoring once again. But I am picking Dallas and Arizona to land in the NFC championship game (slightly biased)."

Right about Dallas beating Minnesota.

Wrong about Arizona beating the Saints. I like Warner and you guys got LUCKY in overtime (the way the ball bounced off of Rodgers foot right into the hands of the defensive player, sheer luck). I would prefer to see Dallas against the Cardinals, but I don't think that is the way it is going to go down.

I also predict Dallas will beat the Saints as well and end up in the Super Bowl. Their defense is just playing so well right now. And without T.O. around, Romo is spreading the ball around and their offense looks good too. Where I really think the Cowboys have the advantage on both offense an defense is in their lines (they are big, fast and nasty!)

If I am right,you better hope that Warner comes back next year: Leinart is not nearly as good as Warner! :-)

Robert

Victor Reppert said...

Leinart is a not a quarterback capable of contending for the NFL title. Maybe there's a chance for an NFC West title with him, but nothing more. (That's a division with no other winning records). Warner is a good regular season quarterback but an off-the-charts postseason quarterback.

Any close game turns on luck of one kind or another, since the ball bounces hundreds of times in the course of such a game, and whistles either blow or don't blow.

NO is almost impossible to gauge because we don't know how seriously to take its late-season meltdown; if you look at the record you will find that they underachieved in five consecutive games. That could be difficult to recover from. Though the Cardinals recovered from a disastrous late regular season last year. So the Cardinals go from facing Green Bay, with a great late-season record but not as good overall, to facing New Orleans, with a better overall record but a late-season collapse. NO also has a history of outscoring opponents as opposed to defending against them.

philip m said...

In terms of how Arizona won, I would also like to point out:

-Both Fitzgerald's touchdowns were offensive pass interference on his part

-Rodgers got facemasked on the play with the touchdown in overtime. I don't know how OT changes things, but I know the game is not supposed to end on a defensive penalty.

Blue Devil Knight said...

I expect Vikings v Saints in the NFCC game.

AFC Ravens versus Jets. Yep. I said it.

Defense will carry the day in the AFC.

Blue Devil Knight said...

It is surprising they missed that facemask call.

Robert said...

Blue Devil Knight wrote:

"I expect Vikings v Saints in the NFCC game.

AFC Ravens versus Jets. Yep. I said it.

Defense will carry the day in the AFC."

You are correct, defense will carry the day in all of the games not just the AFC (whoever has the best defense will win every game, there will not be any more 51-45 scores!)

Well now that you are making picks, why shouldn't the rest of us join in the fun as well and share our own predictions.

Colts versus Chargers (AFC final)

Cowboys versus Saints (NFC final)

Superbowl(Cowboys versus Chargers)

Cowboys will win it all!

BDK you asked about how they could miss the face mask? Refs always give the home down an edge! I also think it could be argued that the face mask occurred after the ball had been fumbled and the refs were focused on the bouncing ball and the guy who caught it rather than on Rodgers.

Robert

Victor Reppert said...

The league said the official had to follow the ball. You probably need a little more than a still picture to settle the face mask issue; we would have to see what Adams was doing to the face mask. (That footage may exist, but I haven't seen it).

Complaints about the officiating in this game remind me of complaints about the officiating in last year's Super Bowl, where there were a number of calls that were questioned. I suppose if you want to give the Cardinals last year's Super Bowl, we'll give up the Packer game. You might to get the people in Pittsburgh to agree to that deal.

Unless of course there is someone pulling a Tim Donaghy here.

Victor Reppert said...

You might have trouble getting the people in Pittsburgh to agree to that deal.

Blue Devil Knight said...

My wife pointed out the facemask during the game, it was pretty obvious. The still doesn't do it justice, makes it look wishy-washy. If you see the footage it is clearly a pulling of the face by the front of the helmet. What is questionable is whether it was "excessive" as they nowadays don't have the five yard variety so maybe they'd say it was a judgment call.

There is some good footage here. He had already fumbled, it seems, but that wouldn't stop them from calling it.

Not sure how that would have worked. If he fumbled, then got facemasked, would the Packers have gotten the ball back, or would it have been yards taken from the Cards?

Any rule gurus out there?

My hunch is that players are quite good about this, if they go crazy on every uncalled penalty they would soon be in a straightjacket.

Victor Reppert said...

Adams was interviewed saying that they would AZ would have gotten the ball with a 15 yard penalty had it been called, since Rodgers had already lost possession.