Wednesday, September 13, 2023

Max Planck on consciousness

 I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.


Max Planck

3 comments:

StardustyPsyche said...

"the myth of the war between science & religion"
Modern religious people wish to find computability so as to elevate their beliefs from the status of irrational superstition to at least being rationally compatible with science. That does not work because there is no such compatibility.

Religion is fundamentally incompatible with science.

The religious can do science, manifestly. This is due to the highly segmented and multifaceted structure of the brain. One can believe in all manner of fanciful beings with one part of the brain, and also reason very rationally with another part of the brain.

Kevin said...

Religion is fundamentally incompatible with science.

No it isn't.

StardustyPsyche said...

"I regard consciousness as fundamental."
Yet he could provide not theory of it, even though he was a very accomplished physicist.

" I regard matter as derivative from consciousness."
Yet he could not formulate this supposed relationship.
There is, by contrast, a clear relationship between matter and energy, E=mc^2.

" We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."
No it doesn't. Nearly everything that exists, exists separate from consciousness.

Panpsychism is just idle speculation, just arm waving nonsense without a shred of evidence and entirely lacking in any sort of scientific theory.