Tucker vs. Trump
"I HATE [TRUMP] PASSIONATELY."
–Tucker Carlson, Jan. 4, 2021
"THERE REALLY ISN'T AN UPSIDE TO TRUMP."
"WHAT [TRUMP'S] GOOD AT IS DESTROYING THINGS. HE'S THE UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION OF THAT."
–Tucker Carlson, Nov. 6, 2020
But of course none of this was never aired on FOX News.
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I'm rather amused that people are acting like this is a new thing and only Fox has been doing it. Trends are trendy I suppose.
I despise Trump but love his voters. I voted for him and would vote for him again over the current doofus in charge. I have private texts and public comments. I serve clients and go to church with people I dislike but strive to love them. Only a juvenile would find Tucker’s private comments unusual.
As a disclaimer, I don’t have cable or satellite. I occasionally see Tucker’s comments on YouTube.
There are different types of voters and supporters. There are Always Trumpers who want Trump and no one else no matter what, and then there are "Better Trump than a Democrat" Trump voters. Their votes are for the same person, but the attitude behind them is totally different. Actually, what he's been doing lately is helping Democrats. Sensible Republicans are afraid of alienating the hard-core MAGA crowd and getting beat im primaries,but in general electons those who got nominated by getting Trunp's endorsement mostly got beat in the general election in 2022.
Therefore the Democrats should appreciate Trump. In the same way Republicans “appreciate” the woke, chopping body parts off children Left. Personally, the VP is the gift to conservatives that keeps on giving.
In the same way Republicans “appreciate” the woke, chopping body parts off children Left.
Cert5ainly, you should appreciate the grifters who sold you that lie.
There were Obama "birthers" among the right and there are TDS sufferers among the left. But the "birthers" were a sliver of the right were-as the Non-TDS suffers are a sliver of the left.
Time to remove any power from the mentally unstable.
Where in the world would anybody get the idea that perceiving severe problems with Trump's leadership is something that has to come from the "left." PLenty of conservatives have huge problems with Trump.
>chopping body parts off children Left.
It's interesting to witness the return of the blood libel 100 years later, although instead of being applied to a tiny percentage of the population, it's being applied to a majority (or a large percentage, at least).
Can't see this resulting in anything positive....
>But the "birthers" were a sliver of the right
Marjorie "Jewish Space Lasers" Greene is, of course, one of the most powerful figures now on the right, holding a short leash on the new speaker of the house.
Plenty of lefties perceive severe problems with Biden's leadership also, not just the right, so that's an attempt to change the topic. A telling tactic for people who've been confronted with the truth but love their TDS to much to let go. Be free like Naomi Campbell. You'll feel better when you stop hating.
As for Naomi Wolf (not Campbell), there appears to be a contradiction (among many): Tucker's airing of quieter moments and his concomitant interpretation of the event as "just sightseers," vs Naomi's reference to Tucker's interview with a police officer who was "terrified, as the Capitol was breached." So it wasn't just sightseers, then. The criticism of Tucker is that he is trying to downplay the events of that day, and even Naomi's own article shows him doing exactly this.
Naomi is sorry for believing that Hunter's emails...er, Hillary's laptop....wait...Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, except that there was suspicion that that's exactly what it was, and that's what was reported at the time. Later it came out that that wasn't the case. So the news reported that so-and-so said that P was the case, then later it turned out that P was not the case. Maybe the news should just not report anything, ever, then...
Naomi is sorry that she believed Trump's campaign "colluded with Russia", and links to the Mueller report. Which indeed does not show that "collusion" occurred...because there is no such legal term or term of art in criminal justice. What Mueller did find is numerous suspicious contacts between Trump associates and Russians, but the Trump associates lied about them, so he wasn't able to really conclude anything on this point.
Naomi carries on and on about the history of allowing visitors into the various buildings...but the sergeant at arms banned tours on the morning of January 6th, so regardless of whether these buildings are accessible to the public in general, they were not on that day.
Naomi says she no longer believes Trump instigated the riot because he told his supporters to assemble "peacefully and patriotically." But the reason they were so angry is because they had been hearing Trump's lies about widespread voter fraud for MONTHS, and on the morning of January 6th he told his supporters to "fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore." But in a democracy you "fight like hell" on election day. By January 6th Trump had lost the general election, 60 court cases, and the electoral vote. It was too late. There wasn't anything to "fight like hell" for anymore on that day.
The day was bad not because of the riot, which ironically may be what finally brought the previous two months to a head, but because it was the culmination of a two month multi-faceted attempt by an American president to keep himself in office despite losing the election.
Can Trump supporters like David Brightly imagine what would happen if, in 2024, Biden loses the general election but then claims there was widespread fraud, tries and fails to prove it in court dozens of times, begs the DOJ to "just SAY there is fraud and leave the rest to me," and then pleads with Kamala Harris to throw out the votes on January 6th? What if, unlike Pence, she does so? And your favorite president of all time, Joe Biden, gets sworn in on January 20th, 2025, for a second term? What would you think of this country if that happened?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/health/top-surgery-transgender-teenagers.html
I'm glad my opponents agree the New York time is a bunch of grifters and are guilty of blood liable. I feel like I'm making progress.
Of course conservatives dislike Trump. I dislike Trump on a personal basis. Especially when he didn't show up for Joe Biden's inauguration. What a jackass. His policies and judge appointments were more conservative than the mainstream of my party. He moved the country in the right direction and I'm hoping there are less babies being slaughtered in abortion clinics. I read judge Gorsuch's book about the Republic. Thank God for people like him and Trump's appointment.
My point is the Left invented so many hoaxes that it hardened the support of his wing of my party. By "my party" I mean it as a simplistic identifier without loyalty. It's like being a homeowner or being a veteran.
In case you're not familiar, having top surgery is having a woman's breast chopped off.
Being the earthy Christian I am, I always loved this versefrom Proverbs:
"Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice in the wife of your youth, a lovely deer, a graceful doe. Let her breasts fill you at all times with delight; be intoxicated always in her love."
Hot dog! Mrs Duffy is still the hot blonde I married 34 years ago.
A final point about chopping off the breasts of adolescent girls: as a young man, newly married and struggling with finances, I would come home from work to see Mrs. Duffy breastfeeding our infant. That is the picture of purity and beauty to me, worthy of the sacrifices I made to have a family. I can’t imagine an ideology so corrupt that they indorse breast removal of girls. There is something deeply sick about the Left.
There is something deeply sick about the Left
There seems to be a spiritual link between sickness and evil. It's hard to tell if there's a difference today in the cases you bring up.
Yes, the left gets out of control. I think there are some medically motivated cases of transgendering, but there are to many sex changes by people who are too young to know what they are doing.
David Duffy,
I'm glad my opponents agree the New York time is a bunch of grifters and are guilty of blood liable. I feel like I'm making progress.
I have for quite a while. I couldn't see the article.
I can’t imagine an ideology so corrupt that they indorse breast removal of girls
I agree. Fortunately, there is not such ideology at play.
There are a few bad actors talking about trans surgery on teenagers, and they have everyone upset at something that, if it were true, I would also be indignant about. If it were true.
One Brow,
Sorry you couldn’t read the article. The article is titled “More Trans Teens are choosing ‘Top Surgery.’ The article speaks favorably about adolescent girls chopping their breasts off. I’m sorry One Brow, it is an ideology that is convincing young girls to chop their breasts off. I am not quoting Fox News. But I do understand the need to defend your team.
I understand some people have psychosis. We want to have compassion for those who have mental illness. A mother breast-feeding their child is the essence of charging a child with life. A pregnant woman is also charged with LIFE. It’s genuinely evil to speak favorably about an adolescent girl chopping their breasts off. Don’t defend your team when the slip into insane.
David Duffy,
I work with/for some of the physicians that have been accused of convincing young girls and their parents to 'chop off breasts'. It is ludicrous. These people are highly professional, competent, and know the value of minimal interventions. When faced with serious threats of suicide, I understand there are difficult choices, but no one is eager to perform these surgeries. My own child chooses to bind their breasts, and any notion that these doctors prefer surgery to binding is the true lunacy.
How deep a rabbit hole do you have to fall down into to believe that doctors are recommending surgery over binding?
“I’m pretty straightforward; I love Trump,” Carlson gushed. “Like, as a person, I think Trump is funny and insightful. And I said this to Trump when he called me, you know, all wounded about those texts. That was a moment in time where I was absolutely infuriated.”
After insisting he was “enraged” that his private messages “were all grabbed completely illegitimately,” Carlson said the text exchange in which he said he hated the former president centered on his frustration with Trump’s campaign following the election loss.
“Those particular texts were pulled at exactly the moment where I was texting with one of my producers because some idiot on the Trump campaign had sent us the name of these dead voters who had voted,” the far-right host exclaimed. “And we went and I repeated them on air, and it turns out some of them were alive. So, I was just—I felt humiliated.”
>I'm glad my opponents agree the New York time is a bunch of grifters and are guilty of blood liable.
The "blood libel" was an anti-Jewish conspiracy theory that accused Jews of drinking the blood of babies, and is part of the hatred that was drummed up against them resulting in the genocide.
Since rightwing Hate Television and Hate Radio spew lies that libruhls want to "cHoP giRLs' BrEAstS ofF," and therefore are evil, I don't see how it's much different than the blood libel. And my concern about where this will end up, since people unquestioningly believe this nonsense, is fully justified, I think.
One Brow,
You know good people. I’m in a rabbit hole.
Thanks for reminding me how absurd the Left tries to be persuasive about their destructive views.
I know good people so that settles my side of the argument.
Martin,
“I think”
There you go again.
One Brow,
You have been open about the difficulties of raising children you deeply care about. I did not make the proper response. I’m not changing my view, but I also live in the complexities of the world of raising kids.
I have three kids, all very different. I become a Christian in my 20’s and have gone through the ups and downs with life with same conservative Evangelical Christian friends for about 30 years. Although I’m an Anglo-catholic (odd man when we get together), through all the changes of life we still meet for breakfast the first Saturday of the month (the fishing trips, home improvement projects, and helping each other move are long behind us). With home-schooling, private schooling, public schooling, raising our kids in church, we share our triumphs and torments of raising kids all these years. It’s always the main topic of conversation.
I’ll admit I’ve been spared a lot of the emotional difficulties in marriage and parenthood, but have had my fair share torment in other places. I hope you find wisdom in helping your kids to have a good life.
From the comments I'm concluding that lefties are simply deranged Neo-Bolsheviks regardless if Trump is in the mix or not. It's interesting though that they scream like vampires being sprinkled with holy water whenever Trump is mentioned.
Trump's no saint, but he did get rid on Roe v Wade. They saw that coming and watched in horror as the saw their sacrament dissolve like Vlad in the sunlight.
David Duffy,
You know good people. I’m in a rabbit hole.
I think "good people" downplays that I know the people being directly accused by Jaime Reed. If you know some surgeons, ask them if they would use surgery in situations where chest-binding can accomplish the same outcomes. I'm sure there are a few, but every surgeon I've met seems to think that surgery (at least, the type that cuts into people) needs to be used for only the most serious cases.
I clearly gave offense when I used "rabbit hole", and I promise I will not use that, or similar terms, regarding you in the future (as long as bmiller comments here, I can't swear off those terms entirely). I apologize for causing you distress.
You post as a kind and compassionate man. My best advice is to not take my word for it, nor some news outlet, but go to the source. Ask some local doctors who help people transition about the circumstances in which they would recommend breast removal. You might be surprised at the compassion you feel.
Most of what MSM reports is fake and gay.
This is funny. Don't care who you are.
One Brow,
Although my faith prohibits me from talking about the good works I’ve done (that’s between the Lord and I), I will say if you’re involved in a church that tries to help people you run into all types: the addicted, the mentally ill, the con artist, liars, cheats, scoundrels, and some that need a genuine hand. Strange and needy people go to the church hoping their problems will be solved, or at least to get a hand out.
Being involved with people who have severe emotional and addiction problems I’ve gotten to know many doctors, psychiatrists, social workers, ministers, as I sought professional help for the needy. I don’t know, but have theories, about why some deny and want out of the physical body they were born with. From experience, people with serious mental illnesses are extremely difficult to work with and I have found no confidence in the professionals who work to help them. I don’t blame them, they have studied the best information we have, but at this point in our knowledge we know almost nothing about the mind of others.
Dave,
I don’t know, but have theories, about why some deny and want out of the physical body they were born with.
I'm interested in your theories. To me it seems like suddenly it's a fad that people without a strong foundation are susceptible to. Adults and professionals used to discourage self-harm but now it seems many are no different than the children.
Miller,
There are some theories I will not share in a public forum. I have a wife and friends who know me and my experience well enough to to give me a fair consideration on my thoughts on why someone rejects their own body.
Keep up the good fight.
Miller,
There's this principle I learned from Jesus by reading the Gospels. In Matthew chapter 5 Jesus says that to lust after a woman is to commit adultery. That's pretty hardcore (Lord help me I am fallen man) and something as Christians we should live up to. But when Jesus confronted a woman caught in adultery he had mercy her. I do not have the wisdom of Christ, but in principle, we need to uphold the highest standards and yet have mercy on the fallen.
It's an evil act to mutilate a woman/girl and chop off her breasts. But I feel great mercy for those girls who would want to do that to their beautiful created body.
Dave,
we need to uphold the highest standards and yet have mercy on the fallen.
It's an evil act to mutilate a woman/girl and chop off her breasts. But I feel great mercy for those girls who would want to do that to their beautiful created body.
Of course we should have mercy on people, especially children, who want to self-mutilate. As sane caring adults we should do what is our power to prevent it. We should not indulge their delusions. That is not caring for them. They are the victims. The "adults" with the knives are the knaves.
As I mentioned, this appears to be a social contagion now, most likely related to social media.
David Duffy,
I don’t know, but have theories, about why some deny and want out of the physical body they were born with.
Some people have Lasik surgery to get better vision than the body they were born with. People have skin markings removed. People with very uneven legs have one of them lengthened. I don't think you'd have any objection to these people wanting out of the physical body they are born with (as I understand you to mean by that phrase).
Bodily development is complex and multifaceted. Sometimes, the manner in which a person develops doesn't match the easy categories we like to impose, or the most visible characteristics we use to impose them. There are studies that some structures the brains of trans people tend to resemble their chosen gender, not the sex they were assigned at birth. For me, the brain is where our identity lives. What happens when the gender of the brain does not match the gender of the gonads? Do you insist that the gonads reign supreme over the brain?
bmiller,
There have always been trans people. Modern technology has made it easier for them to connect with each other and those who support them, so they are more free to express themselves. I know you'd rather they were dead than out, but we don't have to play by your rules.
One Brow,
I believe you when you say you know what I mean.
I am all for medical advancement and surgery that works to restore any part of our body to its optimal function. Our eyes were meant to see, our legs were meant for walking and running, our genitals were made for reproduction and pleasure. I am all for seeing, walking, reproduction, and physical pleasure.
I am against any surgery that destroys the optimal functioning of any part of our body.
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David Duffy,
Who decides what's optimal, if not the person whose body it is? For example, being very near-sighted or very far-sighted could have an advantage in some situations.
One Brow,
If someone voluntarily chooses to take their 20/20 vision to become near-sighed by a surgical procedure, I would try to persuade them they will be losing something valuable with little to gain. If the person were someone close to me, perhaps I would take them to some of my favorite vistas in California. The giant sequoias, the Sierra, the central coast, Kings Canyon, Yosemite, the Mojave Desert, the blossom trail, and then have them look up at the stars on a clear night from a place like Mount Shasta, come to mind. If they choose to see those things blurry, in the end there’s nothing I can do.
If it were someone I didn’t know who wanted to ruin their vision, I would shrug and say, “Oh well.”
Evil and mentally diseased adults should not be allowed around kids. One sign is if they tell the kid not to tell their parents.
Dave,
If it were someone I didn’t know who wanted to ruin their vision, I would shrug and say, “Oh well.”
I think you should try to talk them out of it.
It seems to me that the slow march of evil has picked up steam lately. Imagine my surprise when I found left secularists noticing also and actually calling it EVIL/
The Fevered Delusions of Naomi Wolf
"She has repeatedly insisted that the country is on the verge of martial law, and transmogrified every threat — both pronounced and overhyped — into a government-led plot to establish a dictatorship. She has made prediction after prediction that has simply not come to pass. Hers are not sober and sensible forecasts of runaway human nature, institutional atrophy, and constitutional decline, but psychedelic fever-dreams that are more typically suited to the InfoWars crowd."
David Duffy,
Trans people would be very happy if you 'would shrug and say, “Oh well.”'
"Trans people would be very happy if you 'would shrug and say, “Oh well.”'"
I do that every day. As far as I know I try to treat every individual with respect.
I don't have to agree with their politics and I think they're throwing away a genuine good. Can the Trans handle that they are mentally ill but I will treat them in public like every one else?
Miller,
"I think you should try to talk them out of it."
On a scale of 1 to 10, how persuasive do you think I have been with One Brow? I'm thinking 1 1/2.
How about Martin? You think I can talk him out of his idiocy? On a scale from 1 to 10 I'm at like -5.
David Duffy,
Actually, my idiocy might be slightly less than it comes across. You'd be surprised by how much I try to empathize, at least in my private thoughts, with a conservative Christian point of view, having been a fan of Ed Feser for...wow...16 years?! Is that when his The Last Superstition was published?!
I see you talking about natural law in relation to impairment of genitals in trans folk, and I try to think of how to defend trans from a natural law point of view...
With that in mind, I don't see how it's different than intersex folks, who have both sets of sex organs, and therefore have impaired function, in a sense, as people are "supposed to" be only one sex. And some intersex people get surgery to correct this, thereby "impairing" in a sense one of their two sexes so the other can properly function.
I tend to think trans folks are kinda like this, just without the physical expression of their "wrong" sex.
If you, David Duffy or bmiller, looked down one day and saw you suddenly had boobs and a vagina, wouldn't you want to get them surgically removed as quickly as possible? I know I would! And I wouldn't think of this as destroying a function because it's a function of something I'm not supposed to have, as a man. Even if they properly function, they are an impairment. Something's gone wrong.
Dave,
The way I look at it is that in the end I can at least say I tried to talk the crazy person off the ledge. I've at least shown them they don't have to be crazy.
BTW. Regarding your 2 case examples, I think you're presently scoring -5 in both cases of persuasion. My score is lower. But I don't believe God calls on us to "win", only to be faithful witnesses (and take our lumps). Especially noteworthy this season. Did Christ "win" his arguments with the Pharisees? Stephen? Peter and Paul with the Romans?
Martin,
Do you have some sort of animosity against nature?
If I woke up and my body was mutilated I would wonder who did that to me. If I was born blind, I would take the opportunity to have sight if offered, not try to persuade everyone else to poke their eyes out. How perverse.
Miller,
Yes, it is the season of fasting and remembering. I'm looking ahead to Palm Sunday in a few days, with Maundy Thursday and Good Friday to follow. For most of my life now the life of Christ and the Christian calendar has oriented my thinking. There's always a sense of a new beginning at Easter. For whatever reason I seem to need a fast and then a new beginning every Easter.
I need Lent. To reorient myself.
One Brow,
“If you, David Duffy or bmiller, looked down one day and saw you suddenly had boobs and a vagina, wouldn't you want to get them surgically removed as quickly as possible? I know I would”
Can you help me with this lunatic’s thought experiment.
I wake up with boobs. I need to chop them off. Need help One Brow..
Dave,
You got your boobs mixed up ;-)
Miller,
Goodness, that line gave me a good laugh. Thanks brother, you would do well with crowd I spend my time with.
David Duffy,
I do that every day. As far as I know I try to treat every individual with respect.
I don't have to agree with their politics and I think they're throwing away a genuine good. Can the Trans handle that they are mentally ill but I will treat them in public like every one else?
Referring to trans people as "mentally ill" does not translate to respect. Pity is not respect.
“Referring to trans people as "mentally ill" does not translate to respect. Pity is not respect.”
Recognizing is not pity. There are people I pity and have the greatest respect for. Good people broken with real suffering by the misfortunes of life. They are the ones I most admire and pity.
It’s the opposite of my normal temperament, which is schadenfreude.
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