Wednesday, December 07, 2016

What is wrong with being a bigot?

Is opposition to bigotry itself religiously based? If we were not created, we were not created equal, and therefore do not have any 'inalienable" rights except what the people with the biggest guns see fit to give us.

Thus wedding providers who don't serve gay weddings can only be criticized if they are violated their God-given rights. But either there are no God given rights, in which case there is no case for gay marriage, or they were given those rights by God. But, based on the possible sources of revelation we have, is it plausible to say that God granted gay people the right to marry?

5 comments:

Gyan said...

"All men are created equal" expresses deism and not Christianity. Do you find this statement in Bible or in theologians? Did Aquinas ever write "all men are created equal"?

Joe Hinman said...

what makes you think Christian theology stopped quoth Aquima? Yes it is in the Bible. Paul speaks of foolish pre

Titus 1

"10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.”[c] 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth. 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. 16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good."

It is obvious from the context he is using the statement to show a thing they should not say, he;s condemning stereotypes and prejudices. When he says:this statement is true: he eans it was said not that they are that way, why condemn Jewish myths if cretans are lazy?

Joe Hinman said...

other translations say ;:this testimony is true or this witness is true, the context makes clear he is not saying the statement about Cretans is true but the fact that a prophet of the circumcision said this about cretans is true, a look at it,.


"10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group.


Obviously this is a tirad against the Judaizers. latter he says don't believe Jewish myths,so this is an example of myth about a group of people, people slavered by the Judaizers. why preface the quote of the cretan prophet by talking about judaizers if this is not an example of JUDAIZER MYTH?

11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.”[c] 13 This saying is true.

if it's not an example of what he just said what;s it doing there? Then he says don't bleieve Jewish myths, if you take that one statment it ios a perfect rebuke of prejudice.


read it again without the statement


"10 For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.”[c] Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth. 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. 16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good."

Joe Hinman said...

why would anyone thin k all humans are not created equal? Obviously the founding fathers did not beklieve that all humans are tall. So they clearly weren't talking being physically equal,. they knew some people are smarter tahn othirw so they didn;tv mean intelletually, They knew that everyone isnt strong,we know they don'tmean thatso what other ind of eqality is thkere/a

equal value, equal rights, equally loved by God The fact that it is talking about rights might give us a clue.

Joe Hinman said...

I have been asked to say I am not a robot