I think the Book of Mormon is an interesting read... Mine is all marked up and highlighted... But, unfortunately--or perhaps fortunately--I'll never take it seriously unless I can see the manuscript evidence. Give me an interlinear Book of Mormon which allows me to not only verify that an actual text existed, but that the translation is accurate.
"...he [Lehi] was filled with the Spirit, and began to prophesy concerning his seed-that these plates of brass should go forth unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people who were of his seed. Wherefore, he said that these plates of brass should never perish; neither should they be dimmed any more by time." 1 Nephi 17b-19b
If the prophecy is true and the plates have neither perished nor fallen away from the race of Lehi's seed, then show them to me. That's all I ask.
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John,
When I tell them that they tell me that the devil answered.
Of course I then tell them to pray and see if the monotheistic trinity is true.
They say they did and it's not.
I, of course, tell them the devil told them that.
Theology is a fact-free enterprise.
Either Paul or his Mormon opponent or neither could be right, and there is no way to find out.
Anonymous,
Interesting facts about theology you claim!
I mean, either you, I, or neither could be right about what you just said, and there's no way to find out.
Paul is right. There is no way to find out if there is a devil or if he inspired either the New Testament or the Book of Mormon.
What sort of devil-detecting apparatus could be used?
Aonymous,
Are you a little slow in detecting sarcasm?
How to find out if there is a devil? Well, one way is if an all-knowing being told us there was one.
Now, you may be thinking that since we can't emperically detect a devil then "there's no way" to detect one.
If so, guess on your view there's no way to detect if there are other minds, laws of logic, morality, &c.
And so it sounds like you have bigger problems to worry about than commenting in people's comboxes right now. I'd re-thing my worldview if I were you.
Perhaps Paul really does have some evidence that the devil answered Mormon prayers.
After all, he can detect laws of logic like 2+2=4, so detecting Satan should be child's play for him.
Anonymous fails to grasp the point I made. Refuting him is child's play for me.
Anyway, I empirically detected the devil. He has horns and a red suit, complete with pitch fork.
Btw, 2+2=4 is not a law of logic.
I think Anonymous is Steven Carr.
I think the Book of Mormon is an interesting read... Mine is all marked up and highlighted... But, unfortunately--or perhaps fortunately--I'll never take it seriously unless I can see the manuscript evidence. Give me an interlinear Book of Mormon which allows me to not only verify that an actual text existed, but that the translation is accurate.
"...he [Lehi] was filled with the Spirit, and began to prophesy concerning his seed-that these plates of brass should go forth unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people who were of his seed. Wherefore, he said that these plates of brass should never perish; neither should they be dimmed any more by time."
1 Nephi 17b-19b
If the prophecy is true and the plates have neither perished nor fallen away from the race of Lehi's seed, then show them to me. That's all I ask.
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