Tuesday, December 06, 2005

Bah! Humbug!

An attack on Christmas from atheists. The anti-Claus.

8 comments:

Jim Lippard said...

Actually, it is making fun of the bogus claims of a War on Christmas being emitted by the likes of Bill O'Reilly, and which have been made at least since the 1950s.

There is no campaign to eradicate Christmas. Wal-Mart has responded to accusations that they are forcing associates to avoid mentioning Christmas here: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051130/daw060.html?.v=18

For more context see Michelle Goldberg's piece at Salon from November 21:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/21/christmas/index_np.html

Victor Reppert said...

I think there was a guy a few years back who did attack Christmas, by the name of Flynn. I also remember Keith Parsons defended the celebration of Christmas by atheists against Flynn.

Victor Reppert said...

And there does seem to be a serious anti-Christian message in the whole enterprise. These people are claiming the entire holiday is founded on a falsehood. Where I come from, that's an attack. But, of course, not the culturewide attack that people like O'Reilly are claiming

Jim Lippard said...

The date and most of the trappings of Christmas *don't* have anything to do with Jesus of Nazareth. The holiday was pagan before it was Christian.

Yes, Tom Flynn wrote a book attacking Christmas--but that book was widely panned even by its target audience. I see *zero* evidence that this current campaign has anything to do with that book.

The real propaganda campaign going on right now is not attacking Christmas, but attacking the virtually nonexistent "War on Christmas." And you're falling for it, along with the Arizona Republic and many others.

I see Jerry Falwell has identified litigation as the real "reason for the season":

"That group [Liberty Counsel's 'Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign'] is threatening to sue any city or public school that attempts to secularize Christmas, or spreads what it deems to be misinformation about how Christmas can be celebrated by cities and schools."

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1134169811941&call_pageid=968256290204&col=968350116795

BTW, I agree that there has been a growing number of companies whose decorations and advertising say "Happy Holidays"--but I bet it's largely it's a way to recognize that they have shoppers who celebrate other holidays rather than a fear of being sued. There simply *is* no risk of a private company being sued for having decorations with the word "Christmas."

When it comes to municipalities or government organizations, that may be a different story, though it's clear from recent Supreme Court rulings that so long as they recognize multiple religions in any display, they'll be fine making references to "Christmas," putting out nativity scenes, etc.

BTW, you say "there does seem to be a serious anti-Christian message in the whole enterprise." Which enterprise is that? If you look at the content of O'Reilly's rant on this subject, you'll notice that he makes no reference to Jesus Christ or Christianity besides the name "Christmas." What he's defending is a holiday about having a Christmas tree and giving gifts--the *commercial* Christmas!

You say "These people are claiming the entire holiday is founded on a falsehood." Who are the "these people" you're referring to? The only identifiable voices I'm hearing are people like Falwell and O'Reilly, railing against unnamed enemies out to destroy Christmas. If this is real, then shouldn't these unnamed enemies be specifically identifiable?

Jim Lippard said...

Here's a review of John Gibson's book by Neil Fischer at Amazon.com:

Peace on Earth? Goodwill to men? What a bunch of liberal garbage! These pinheads don't know the first thing about Christmas. What we celebrate on December 25 is the fact that WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU ARE. Christmas is about WAR.

So, if someone sends you a greeting card that says "Happy Holidays", or if your County doesn't display a nativity scene on the Courthouse lawn, don't turn the other cheek. Don't give these evil liberals the benefit of the doubt that they are just trying to be nice and inclusive of everyone. BE OFFENDED. BE VERY OFFENDED, just a Jesus would have wanted you to be. Get really worked up about it. Let the hate boil up inside you until it turns into blind rage. Remember, you're the victim.

Now is the time to take a stand. The next time you go to the store and the clerk says "Happy Holidays", say back to this person, "Do you have a problem with the fact that I'm a Christian? Why are you persecuting me?" Really get in his face about it. Be as loud and obnoxious as possible. Ask to see the manager, no matter how many people are in line behind you. Always keep in mind that it's all about you, because you're saved, they're not, and God loves you more.

I would also recommend that you don't patronize any stores that fail to carry an overt Christian message at all times, not just at Christmas, even stores that carry this book (including this online store...what are you doing here?). People thought that the contract between sellers and buyers was a exchange of goods and services for payment. Wrong. They owe us more than that. They're supposed to give us something for free, which is an acknowledgement, 24/7, that our religion is the only true one.

Bravo to John Gibson for unveiling this liberal plot that appears to lead all the way to the White House itself. I personally think that Senate Hearings are in order. Perhaps the Justice Department needs to appoint a special prosecutor. IT'S WORSE THAN YOU THINK. MUCH WORSE. First they're saying "Happy Holidays". The next thing you know, they'll be sending us all to the gas chambers. It's a slippery slope. Highly recommended.

Victor Reppert said...

I was simply referring to the Beyond Belief Media people. That's it. I think there is some undue political correctness from some people having to do with Christmas, but no full-scale attack on Christmas, as the Falwell/O'Reilly/Limabugh crowd want to suggest.

Jim Lippard said...

FYI, Brian Flemming, the guy who made the documentary "The God Who Wasn't There," *is* Beyond Belief Media.

It's "person," not "people," in other words. I think he was just responding to the John Gibson-inspired media blitz and having a little fun.

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