tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post8828311540515068485..comments2024-03-27T15:34:14.749-07:00Comments on dangerous idea: Somebody actually advocated revising the Preamble with the exact words I gave years agoVictor Repperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-37537364621732160142014-11-21T15:21:56.703-07:002014-11-21T15:21:56.703-07:00"That has to be a violation of the separation..."<i>That has to be a violation of the separation of church and state clause that's also in the constitution.</i>"<br /><br />Of course, there is no "separation of church and state clause" in the actual US Constitution.<br /><br />So, while misidentifying the document in which the Preamble is found, and misrepresenting what the Constitution *does* say about "religion", what our Brainiac is (ahem) arguing is that the Constitution itself is unconstitutional.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-10217506005300041182014-11-21T15:09:09.612-07:002014-11-21T15:09:09.612-07:00Well, I wasn't going to point that out, but......Well, I wasn't going to point that out, but....Victor Repperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-41495608700003310802014-11-21T10:55:28.227-07:002014-11-21T10:55:28.227-07:00"We hold these truths to be self evident, tha..."<i>We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are evolved equal, that they are endowed by evolution with certain inalienable rights, that among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.</i>"<br /><br />Of course, that's not the <i>Constitution</i>; that's the Declaration of Independence.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-12075916327164973332014-11-21T10:53:02.777-07:002014-11-21T10:53:02.777-07:00"… where just anyone might read them"
...."… where just anyone might read them"<br /><br />... and be able to <i>judge for himself</i> whether the rulers are adhering to their proper authorities.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-58636337428205601042014-11-21T10:50:20.387-07:002014-11-21T10:50:20.387-07:00“The focus on having a constitution is itself a vi...“<i>The focus on having a constitution is itself a violation of church and state …</i>”<br /><br />Presumably, there was meant to be a “the separation of” in there.<br /><br />So, “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and unto God what is God’s” is *really* a command that governments – Caesar – should be theocratic? Or, is it a command that rulers are not to be expected to observe any limits to their authority to compel, under threat of violent death, their subjects to do this or not to do that? Or, is it the command that while rulers are indeed to be expected to observe <i>some</i> limits to their authority, where those limits lie is not to be publically promulgated and certainly not to be written down … where just anyone might read them?<br /><br /><br />"<i>... since it is just a mirror image of the protestant doctrine of sola scriptura.</i>"<br /><br />Oh, you mean that meta-doctrine that The One True Bureaucracy publicly repudiates and then turns around and smuggles into almost everything?Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-76188215053478588852014-11-21T10:37:22.046-07:002014-11-21T10:37:22.046-07:00"they are endowed by evolution with certain i..."<i>they are endowed by evolution with certain inalienable rights</i>"<br /><br />Yet, to be logically consistent with evolutionism, shouldn't that be "<i>they are endowed by evolution with certain fully alienable rights</i>"?Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-58917291988796065352014-11-21T09:21:10.690-07:002014-11-21T09:21:10.690-07:00Sure. I go around ranting and raving at imaginary...Sure. I go around ranting and raving at imaginary beings all the time.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-74006496396844744082014-11-21T08:47:53.157-07:002014-11-21T08:47:53.157-07:00You're really mad at God, aren't you?You're really mad at God, aren't you?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342391408412861663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-43556931015067949542014-11-21T08:46:38.014-07:002014-11-21T08:46:38.014-07:00This wording is indeed laughable. It is a parody ...This wording is indeed laughable. It is a parody of the equally ridiculous religious notion of omni-man granting favors to his little children, even as he inflicts their lives with the trials and tribulations of life on earth.<br />im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-2399353161676844512014-11-21T03:02:02.996-07:002014-11-21T03:02:02.996-07:00they are endowed by evolution with certain inalien...<i>they are endowed by evolution with certain inalienable rights</i><br /><br />chuckleAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342391408412861663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-64325328873208589942014-11-21T01:50:37.356-07:002014-11-21T01:50:37.356-07:00The focus on having a constitution is itself a vio...The focus on having a constitution is itself a violation of church and state since it is just a mirror image of the protestant doctrine of sola scriptura.<br /><br />Heuristicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12213871719586819920noreply@blogger.com