tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post8245745647145598970..comments2024-03-27T15:34:14.749-07:00Comments on dangerous idea: Why Christianity and Islam cannot both be trueVictor Repperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-20605650355698205472009-06-26T14:14:40.336-07:002009-06-26T14:14:40.336-07:00And, by the way, the point is a point of semantics...And, by the way, the point is a point of semantics.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-69454428212683440122009-06-26T14:12:13.806-07:002009-06-26T14:12:13.806-07:00But then, you also seek to brush off semantics.
H...But then, you also seek to brush off semantics.<br /><br />How then shall we communicate if we do not take care first to semantics and them to syntax?<br /><br />Are you so care-free of syntax when dealing with computer languages?Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-86891183898310128132009-06-26T13:36:29.612-07:002009-06-26T13:36:29.612-07:00I've said it before but it's worth repeati...I've said it before but it's worth repeating:<br /><br /><i>"When one points to the moon, stop staring at one's hand."</i><br /><br />I have no problem when one points out a syntactical issue. It happens. But lets not get stuck there---point it out and move on.Shacklemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190598990748327537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-50239463653148012642009-06-26T08:12:26.461-07:002009-06-26T08:12:26.461-07:00Dr. Reppert,
I think Ilion is correct in his anal...Dr. Reppert,<br /><br />I think Ilion is correct in his analysis that the situation you presented was not a true logical contradiction.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-71983044200778465702009-06-26T00:18:27.115-07:002009-06-26T00:18:27.115-07:00Even the two seemingly simple opposing statements ...Even the two seemingly simple opposing statements --<br />1) Christian claim: "<i>Jesus was executed on a cross</i>"<br />2) Islamic claim: "<i>Jesus was not executed on a cross</i>"<br />are not really simple propositions, but are rather complex propositions -- <br />1) Christian claim: "<i>There was a man named Jesus AND he was executed on a cross</i>"<br />2) Islamic claim: "<i>There was a man named Jesus (whom some say was executed on a cross) BUT he was not executed on a cross</i>"<br /><br />It is a logical possibility that the name 'Jesus' (or 'Issa' as the Moslems call him) does not refer to any man who ever lived. And were it true that Jesus never lived, then both the Christian and the Moslem claims above are false.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-5083724642001080662009-06-25T23:57:07.763-07:002009-06-25T23:57:07.763-07:00After all, of some hypothetical situation which ma...After all, of some hypothetical situation which may logically (and exhaustively) be described or explained by one of three three mutually exclusive propositions, would one *really* say that none of the statements <i>contradict</i> the other two?Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-46721580057947852732009-06-25T23:48:32.084-07:002009-06-25T23:48:32.084-07:00VR: "No. If they are genuine contradictories,...<b>VR:</b> "<i>No. If they are genuine contradictories, as opposed to contraries, then one has to be true and the other false.</i>"<br /><br />Sure. Except that people rarely use the words like that; even my old Webster's from the early 1960s secondarily defines 'contradiction' in terms of 'contrariness.'<br /><br />Else, why speak of exhaustive and mutually exclusive statements or worry about excluded middles?Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-73629309914912856112009-06-25T22:49:53.759-07:002009-06-25T22:49:53.759-07:00No. If they are genuine contradictories, as oppose...No. If they are genuine contradictories, as opposed to contraries, then one has to be true and the other false. If you look at the square of opposition, you can see that this is the case. <br /><br />From the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy: <br /><br />Firstly, A and O propositions are contradictory, as are E and I propositions. Propositions are contradictory when the truth of one implies the falsity of the other, and conversely.<br /><br />http://www.iep.utm.edu/s/sqr-opp.htmVictor Repperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-87804345482882627662009-06-25T22:15:19.743-07:002009-06-25T22:15:19.743-07:00"If two statements contradict one another, on..."If two statements contradict one another, one must be true and the other false. "<br /><br />Of course, it could be the case that they are both false, and again, I'm sure that is not what you meant.DeanAZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10904796306322345541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-50312181332177372592009-06-25T17:57:49.276-07:002009-06-25T17:57:49.276-07:00VR: "If two statements contradict one another...<b>VR:</b> "<i>If two statements contradict one another, one must be true and the other false. That is the most fundamental law of logic. ...</i>"<br /><br />What you said is not what you mean.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-27737547876634663382008-11-28T12:54:00.000-07:002008-11-28T12:54:00.000-07:00The Koran abrogates all previous revelations. It...The Koran abrogates all previous revelations. It also abrogates itself: http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/2007/11/taqiyya-lies-and-muslim-propagana.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-42201470681779668902008-11-21T22:36:00.000-07:002008-11-21T22:36:00.000-07:00Islam itself, and conseguently the general Moslem,...Islam itself, and conseguently the general Moslem, is as antipathetic to actual logical reasoning as is the typical 'atheist' or "Darwinist."Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.com