tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post7146247938997078886..comments2024-03-27T15:34:14.749-07:00Comments on dangerous idea: Carson Holloway on Darwinian natural rightVictor Repperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-61888625867418334812007-08-16T05:17:00.000-07:002007-08-16T05:17:00.000-07:00The Bible endorses slavery. As Mark Noll and Euge...The Bible endorses slavery. As Mark Noll and Eugene Genovese have indicated in their recent books on the subject, the proslavery folks were able to cite the Bible as supporting their position.<BR/><BR/>But we know this can't be right, because we know that slavery is wrong, and therefore we know that we need to correct the Bible. Doesn't this illustrate how we have to appeal to a natural morality to correct the Bible and other sources of revelation?<BR/><BR/>Similarly, we know that when Abraham was commanded by God to kill Isaac, this was wrong. Otherwise, we would have to agree with Kiekegaard that Revelation teaches "the suspension of the ethical."Larry Arnharthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619785331100785170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-4467229422546102552007-08-02T23:21:00.000-07:002007-08-02T23:21:00.000-07:00Walters highlights the clash between science and r...Walters highlights the clash between science and religion when he claims that our immoral passions are part of a 'fallen' nature, and moral passions are not.<BR/><BR/>As Victor's post made clear, no such distinction can be found in science.<BR/><BR/>No wonder so many scientists rejecct the theistic doctrines about the nature of mankind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-37618273197622636832007-08-02T11:06:00.000-07:002007-08-02T11:06:00.000-07:00Carson Holloway is apparently now at the Universit...Carson Holloway is apparently now at the University of Nebraska at Omaha. He had a one-year fellowship to Princeton.Victor Repperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-5859495572429683172007-08-02T09:01:00.000-07:002007-08-02T09:01:00.000-07:00Anonymous,I think a theistic approach WOULD sugges...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I think a theistic approach WOULD suggest that immoral passions are part of our nature, but part of our fallen nature. Classical theism is not dualistic. The important point is that, by giving a comprehensive, coherent explanation of the origin of the Universe, humankind and morals (which goes beyond proximate evolutionary explanations, which can never be final), theism can provide a good framework for distinguishing moral from amoral passions. No doubt atheists will come to the same conclusions about at least some of these passions, but they will not be able to justify themselves as well as the theist can.<BR/><BR/>Oh, Vic, that post was quite a while ago, and Carson Holloway is no longer at Princeton. I forget exactly where he is now, but you might want to correct that. And thanks for the link:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-69890342862231101852007-08-02T04:31:00.000-07:002007-08-02T04:31:00.000-07:00'But a Darwinian approach equally demonstrates tha...'But a Darwinian approach equally demonstrates that many other passions are rooted in our nature, passions that can hardly be called moral and that might well be considered immoral.'<BR/><BR/>A theistic approach would suggest that these immoral passions are by no means rooted in our nature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com