tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post6198345680191665129..comments2024-03-27T15:34:14.749-07:00Comments on dangerous idea: Lydia McGrew on the Naturalistic inductionVictor Repperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-86061682707703751612011-04-06T07:48:43.159-07:002011-04-06T07:48:43.159-07:00Cheers friends!:-)Cheers friends!:-)BenYachovhttp://www.catholic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-19389404982309304972011-04-05T16:55:16.513-07:002011-04-05T16:55:16.513-07:00Well then...Thank you BenYachov and thanks again f...Well then...Thank you BenYachov and thanks again for the resources.Anthony Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726267495699324589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-74387200952896207812011-04-05T16:32:52.484-07:002011-04-05T16:32:52.484-07:00Anthony you can thank BenYachov he turned me on to...Anthony you can thank BenYachov he turned me on to it.Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-37435423463374237522011-04-05T14:17:48.946-07:002011-04-05T14:17:48.946-07:00My brother just recently told me that Dr. Norman G...My brother just recently told me that Dr. Norman Geisler was a Thomist. I have been on Fessers blog one and off over the past few months. Didn't know about Brian Davies. Thanks a lot, I will be checking all those out!Anthony Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726267495699324589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-20037055566036612902011-04-05T14:14:17.048-07:002011-04-05T14:14:17.048-07:00Anthony Fleming,
There are Evangelical Protestant...Anthony Fleming,<br /><br />There are Evangelical Protestant Thomists.<br /><br />Dr. Norman Geisler might be a good place to start. Brian Davies and edward Feser are must reads.BenYachovhttp://www.catholic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-35853862145963106322011-04-05T13:48:32.602-07:002011-04-05T13:48:32.602-07:00BDK: "Makes me appreciate the Thomists that&#...BDK: "Makes me appreciate the Thomists that's for sure. God as a sustaining cause rather than a puppetmaster. It really is childish. I think I'm becoming an atheist Thomist. "<br /><br />This is what I was saying. That you wanted me to become a Thomist so I could try it out for you. <br /><br />I am very glad that you pointed the whole Thomist thing out to me though, makes a lot of sense of things I had already been thinking and wondering about. Thanks again.Anthony Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726267495699324589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-9829325607554165542011-04-05T13:42:06.112-07:002011-04-05T13:42:06.112-07:00Thanks for all the Thomist sources! I will be read...Thanks for all the Thomist sources! I will be reading them all!Anthony Fleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11726267495699324589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-26728581643577965122011-04-05T08:38:34.869-07:002011-04-05T08:38:34.869-07:00>Valicella's demeanor Tony :)
I don't ...>Valicella's demeanor Tony :)<br /><br />I don't know he is very hostile too Catholicism and it seems he hasn't actually read anything on the Trinity but critiques it none the less.BenYachovhttp://www.catholic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-49421948159373227832011-04-05T08:04:23.290-07:002011-04-05T08:04:23.290-07:00That would explain Valicella's demeanor Tony :...That would explain Valicella's demeanor Tony :)Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-48242498482595652692011-04-05T07:19:27.870-07:002011-04-05T07:19:27.870-07:00>Thomists either attract an unusually belligere...>Thomists either attract an unusually belligerent and supercillious group, or exposure to the philosophy makes them so. <br /><br />Are you thinking of Thomists or Radtrads? Radtrads(Radical Traditionalist so called "Catholics") often think they are Thomists. They are anti-Catholic Fundamentalist Protestants with Rosary Beads.<br /><br />Oh don't get me started.....bad memories....BenYachovhttp://www.catholic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-49384069075892731212011-04-05T07:13:57.000-07:002011-04-05T07:13:57.000-07:00>I frankly don't remember saying them, but ...>I frankly don't remember saying them, but it is interesting.<br /><br />I saw that. I looked like something you might have said. Either that or some other Atheist said it & you happened to be in the area.BenYachovhttp://www.catholic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-66479961249432359822011-04-05T07:11:50.711-07:002011-04-05T07:11:50.711-07:00>Ben you are totally a Feser groupie.
Feser is...>Ben you are totally a Feser groupie.<br /><br />Feser is to philosophy what Iron Maiden is to Heavy Metal!<br /><br />>Have you moved to california yet to take his classes and follow him to church? :)<br /><br />I couldn't afford that in this economy. My wife wouldn't be into it & of course I would miss my Mistress. I have been having a long standing love affair with New York City & State & I would miss her if I went.<br /><br />California is alright to visit but my true love is New York. The wife & I have an understanding about New York.<br /><br />New York Rules! She is Babylon & Jerusalem on a Hotdog role.BenYachovhttp://www.catholic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-77002965551736531942011-04-05T06:29:42.920-07:002011-04-05T06:29:42.920-07:00thomistica.net<a href="http://thomistica.net/" rel="nofollow">thomistica.net</a>Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-43969815609574078112011-04-05T06:29:16.306-07:002011-04-05T06:29:16.306-07:00Found this site that has lots of Thomist reference...Found this site that has lots of Thomist references <a href="http://thomistica.net/>thomistica.net</a>.<br /><br />Incidentally that thomism blog has a post (March 28) addressing some things I said about cosmology. I frankly don't remember saying them, but it is interesting.Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-48497258856716362682011-04-05T06:14:12.613-07:002011-04-05T06:14:12.613-07:00In my experience (present company excepted, Ben, i...In my experience (present company excepted, Ben, if indeed BDK can make the Thomist label stick on you), Thomists either attract an unusually belligerent and supercillious group, or exposure to the philosophy makes them so. <br /><br />They're almost as bad as Notre Dame alumni. :)Tony Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17445688550795779770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-313040441353060182011-04-05T06:10:59.376-07:002011-04-05T06:10:59.376-07:00...in English?...in English?Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-57273038387635683862011-04-05T06:09:25.707-07:002011-04-05T06:09:25.707-07:00That second one...ugh. First one #WINNING
Do any ...That second one...ugh. First one #WINNING<br /><br />Do any Jesuits blog?Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-48765919339577647122011-04-05T06:06:01.757-07:002011-04-05T06:06:01.757-07:00Is there a group blog run by thomists? Preferably ...Is there a group blog run by thomists? Preferably not an asylum like triablogue...Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-76681654233539140822011-04-05T06:05:08.596-07:002011-04-05T06:05:08.596-07:00Great blogroll Martin on that first one, right on!...Great blogroll Martin on that first one, right on!Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-20952290623816917912011-04-05T06:02:06.838-07:002011-04-05T06:02:06.838-07:00Thanks a lot Martin I will take a look at those.
...Thanks a lot Martin I will take a look at those.<br /><br />Ben you are totally a Feser groupie. Have you moved to california yet to take his classes and follow him to church? :)Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-39965283270485999352011-04-04T19:27:32.035-07:002011-04-04T19:27:32.035-07:00When you say " thomist blog" two come to...When you say " thomist blog" two come to mind, the first, just thomism, has links to deeper ponds than I swim in. <br /><br />http://thomism.wordpress.com/<br /><br />http://veniaminov.blogspot.com/Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13750763393428404220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-44914464266919828742011-04-04T19:01:23.745-07:002011-04-04T19:01:23.745-07:00>BenYachov start a blog!
Others have made that...>BenYachov start a blog!<br /><br />Others have made that request of me before but I'm more of an Art Critic than an artist. Or as one foe who became a friend once quite "You are a comm box groupie!" Which I am.<br /><br />An Atheist Thomist? Hmmmm?<br /><br />Well Brian Davies who was a great influence on Feser had something to say about that.<br /><br /><b>Aquinas proves atheists are closer to God than they think</b><br /><br />http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1292332.eceBenYachovhttp://www.catholic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-18473767928731912672011-04-04T19:01:04.502-07:002011-04-04T19:01:04.502-07:00Anon you never justified your negative reaction to...Anon you never justified your negative reaction to my claim that present inability to explain X naturally is not evidence that X is not a natural process. In the face of considerable reasons to believe what I said, you are just tap dancing around the issues. Boredom threshold reacyed: bye.Blue Devil Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12045468316613818510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-60107672266396727872011-04-04T17:15:30.050-07:002011-04-04T17:15:30.050-07:00Anon: “Great Tony. Next time you whip out a "...Anon: “Great Tony. Next time you whip out a "by definition" bit of witticism, you may want to actually go find out what the definition really is. I suggest typing "define:fantasy" into google.”<br /><br />Actually, I did. I wanted to make sure that my definition of “fantasy” wasn’t idiosyncratic, or had a root that allowed for shaded meaning, etc. I don’t do that every time, so I thought it was funny that you’d presume otherwise (when you’d usually be right), and have the misfortune to be wrong. The odds were in your favor, even.<br /><br />Anon: “A fantasy is "imagination unrestricted by reality". "illusion: something many people believe that is false;".”<br /><br />That’s not exactly the definition I found, but it’s close enough.<br /><br />Anon: “In other words, it's entirely possible for naturalism to be false...”<br /><br />Possible? Sure.<br /><br />Anon (continuing): “... or even for a claim that this or that is natural to be false...” <br /><br />I agree that this is possible.<br /><br />Anon (continuing): “... and for the person making the claim to be engaged in fantasy.”<br /><br />Whaaaa? No. It’s not. I think maybe you are confusing solipsism with fantasy? If you want to retreat to solipsism as the basis for your argument, then knock yourself out, but I’ll ignore what you have to say in its defense because I find the position tenable (in a logical way) but irrelevant. If you want to make sense of what it is you’re trying to say, I’d reload and try again.<br /><br />Anon: “"The real world" may well not be "a naturalistic world".<br /><br />Oooooh. Spooky. Consider me fascinated with your argument. :)<br /><br />Anon: “Leave the attempts at wit to Hitchens and Dawkins. It's not your calling.”<br /><br />I agree that Hitchens is genuinely funny, and Dawkins is genuinely witty (and he writes beautifully). I’m glad that you can see the love of language and turns of phrase that make them both a pleasure to both hear and read.Tony Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17445688550795779770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-79818632236683681562011-04-04T16:53:14.883-07:002011-04-04T16:53:14.883-07:00He died about 14 years ago -- so no blog. Maybe a ...He died about 14 years ago -- so no blog. Maybe a blog about him though.GREVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10415494137313565242noreply@blogger.com