tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post1874152965012676672..comments2024-03-28T11:25:20.916-07:00Comments on dangerous idea: Secularism, desert, and moral responsibilityVictor Repperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-23718530559020692582010-03-23T16:17:58.888-07:002010-03-23T16:17:58.888-07:00You have a batch of utilitarian considerations tha...<i>You have a batch of utilitarian considerations that will probably result in our doing, in many cases, the same things to the person that would have been done if you thought the person was really morally responsible.</i><br /><br />Yes, but the flip-side of that pragmatic justification (perhaps all we got) would be the hypocritical religious people who betray their own code or bend it when necessary, and turn a blind eye to the crimes or ethical lapses committed by the faithful. <br /><br />Anyway, the deterrent effect's still an issue. Most perps fear the Law, cops, courts, etc more than they do...hellfire. <br /><br />In regard to the law, some antecedent conditions are considered mitigating factors--some might say that limits freedom, or lessens culpability. A killing done in the "heat of passion"--hub. discovers wifey "in flagrante delicto" or whatever it's called with the leaf-blower, and pulls out his glock...-- does not deserve the same punishment as murder 1, usually. Sufficiency, as y'all say.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-33369279101285795822010-03-23T10:51:30.628-07:002010-03-23T10:51:30.628-07:00Chesterton was involved in a debate on free will w...Chesterton was involved in a debate on free will with someone by the name of Blatchford. I found it online, and will give you a link. <br /><br />What I suspect is that Chesterton had heard of compatibilism, and his reaction to it was pretty much the same as Kant's, that it is a "wretched subterfuge." <br /><br />Steven, I don't see how you get from original sin to determinism. I'd call that a leap of faith, but you don't have any faith, do you?Victor Repperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-31495494757794190742010-03-23T02:41:27.471-07:002010-03-23T02:41:27.471-07:00Was Chesterton also not aware that God creates eac...Was Chesterton also not aware that God creates each person with original sin?<br /><br />The knowledge of Christianity among Christian apologists is very low.Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-86982088992311006162010-03-22T23:51:31.081-07:002010-03-22T23:51:31.081-07:00The determinist does not believe in appealing to t...<em>The determinist does not believe in appealing to the will, but he does believe in changing the environment.</em><br /><br />Was Chesterton not aware of compatabilism?Mark Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07117994136165938870noreply@blogger.com