tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post13706792249202255..comments2024-03-28T12:34:14.649-07:00Comments on dangerous idea: Reppert's CorollaryVictor Repperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-15739037968410897142013-10-20T15:57:17.930-07:002013-10-20T15:57:17.930-07:00"So, you have to believe in the Forrest-Gross..."So, you have to believe in the Forrest-Gross Intelligent Design Wedge Conspiracy Theory in order to do scientific work?"<br /><br />I haven't read it. I know that what they do isn't science, as recognized by the broader scientific community.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-29019045817601219292013-10-20T14:55:49.828-07:002013-10-20T14:55:49.828-07:00So, you have to believe in the Forrest-Gross Intel...So, you have to believe in the Forrest-Gross Intelligent Design Wedge Conspiracy Theory in order to do scientific work? Spare me. <br /><br />If someone wants to look for something to be skeptical about, that would be an excellent place. Victor Repperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-3142814660192733682013-10-20T12:37:11.181-07:002013-10-20T12:37:11.181-07:00I find it more interesting to speculate on what la...I find it more interesting to speculate on what lab questions one's religious views would affect. <br /><br />Chiefly, there are religious views on genetics that many atheists feel are not needed in their moral standard.<br /><br />One example: I think that if someone wanted partners to help with their dog-human hybridization lab in their quest for the perfect border security animal, there might be religious considerations there.<br />Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533263841520213358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-7936234826941836432013-10-20T12:22:47.239-07:002013-10-20T12:22:47.239-07:00"Do we have another candidate for Dawkins'..."<i>Do we have another candidate for Dawkins' spot as Most Threatening Atheist?</i>"<br /><br />Nah... Tyson is entertaining enough as a science popularizer, but as an atheist he never rises above pathetic. Nothing to be threatened by here.<br /><br />That video (which is typical of his snarky comments when he strays from his expertise) is downright embarrassing. Not a coherent thought in the whole thing, punctuated by adolescent titters in the audience. Hardly a spectacle to be proud of.<br /><br />If this is what passes for "threatening", then the faith community has nothing to worry about!B. Prokophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10548980245078214688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-8865053899926737072013-10-20T10:35:35.414-07:002013-10-20T10:35:35.414-07:00"The only intelligent thing Tyson said on tha..."The only intelligent thing Tyson said on that video is "Oops, I pushed a button by mistake!""<br /><br />Do we have another candidate for Dawkins' spot as Most Threatening Atheist?<br /><br />im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-32240038576155818722013-10-20T05:39:16.596-07:002013-10-20T05:39:16.596-07:00even as they deny that there *are* any "laws ...<i>even as they deny that there *are* any "laws of nature"</i><br /><br />As amply demonstrated in a thread below this one, in which Skep has for days now been frantically attempting to defend his "scientific" belief that things can <b>just occur</b> in nature without any cause. (Because to admit to the principle of cause and effect would lead him straight to the First Way - and we can't have that!)B. Prokophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10548980245078214688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-230566162528059292013-10-20T05:14:40.541-07:002013-10-20T05:14:40.541-07:00My point, exactly.
I've never been able to fi...My point, exactly.<br /><br />I've never been able to find a video I could link to, but I recall seeing a <i>Nova</i> (or Nova-type) program several years ago, hosted by Tyson, in which he approvingly echoed Sagan's claim that '<i>Science!</i>' shows us "truths" <a href="http://iliocentrism.blogspot.com/2010/07/science-and-miracles-and-skepticism.html" rel="nofollow">such as that</a> "<i>once in a very great while, your car will spontaneously ooze through the brick wall of your garage and be found the next morning on the street</i>"<br /><br />An amusing thing about "skeptics" (i.e. '<i>Science!</i>' fetishists) is that they:<br />1) insist that the miracles Christianity affirms are "impossible" because they "break the laws of nature";<br />2) even as they deny that there *are* any "laws of nature".<br /><br />As it turns out, they'll accept *any* "miracle" ... just so long as happened (will happen) without purpose and cause. They object to Christianity's miracles, not because they're miraculous, but because they are, definitionally, intentionally caused and to a purpose.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-59937174296395244312013-10-20T04:21:57.288-07:002013-10-20T04:21:57.288-07:00The only intelligent thing Tyson said on that vide...The only intelligent thing Tyson said on that video is "Oops, I pushed a button by mistake!"B. Prokophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10548980245078214688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-38817458864149156142013-10-20T03:31:24.327-07:002013-10-20T03:31:24.327-07:00I think I see why 'I-pretend-to-value-reason&#...I think I see why 'I-pretend-to-value-reason' likes NdGT <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEl9kVl6KPc" rel="nofollow">the "reason" alike</a>Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-26749246270831915252013-10-19T21:06:31.133-07:002013-10-19T21:06:31.133-07:00I know. And Tyson probably wouldn't want to us...<i>I know. And Tyson probably wouldn't want to use you for scientific research.</i><br /><br />You, on the other hand, could be used for scientific research. Are there any studies being done on atheists with crippling cognitive biases? You should volunteer. ;)Crudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04178390947423928444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-83314818372357624292013-10-19T19:55:10.283-07:002013-10-19T19:55:10.283-07:00"I think that makes sense only if you buy int..."I think that makes sense only if you buy into the Discovery Institute/Intelligent Design Conspiracy Theory.<br /><br />I don't."<br /><br />I know. And Tyson probably wouldn't want to use you for scientific research.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-73963149460126861752013-10-19T18:56:31.491-07:002013-10-19T18:56:31.491-07:00I think that makes sense only if you buy into the ...I think that makes sense only if you buy into the Discovery Institute/Intelligent Design Conspiracy Theory. <br /><br />I don't.Victor Repperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-77123883331120946452013-10-19T18:28:18.737-07:002013-10-19T18:28:18.737-07:00Until he runs into Behe and the rest of the DI cro...Until he runs into Behe and the rest of the DI crowd.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-57795422034473414962013-10-19T18:12:12.197-07:002013-10-19T18:12:12.197-07:00I think it's painfully obvious that Tyson has ...I think it's painfully obvious that Tyson has constructed a strawman. Considering the boundless curiosity that religious scientists have demonstrated in the past (the sort of curiosity that has led to <i>most</i> of the scientific knowledge we now have), I don't think he is any danger of meeting in real life the sort of imaginary person he has dreamed up.B. Prokophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10548980245078214688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-61886360297121018062013-10-19T17:41:56.589-07:002013-10-19T17:41:56.589-07:00"But if you say "Oh, no, that would neve..."But if you say "Oh, no, that would never be a concern. No one's atheism could cause they to lack the curiosity to seek further knowledge," then you're a fundamentalist in the perjorative sense."<br /><br />Have no fear. I wouldn't say such a thing. And of course your corollary is well-taken. So let's all agree that anyone who claims to have all the answers surely doesn't.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.com