tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post8415488032056551908..comments2024-03-28T08:58:27.412-07:00Comments on dangerous idea: AgapocentrismVictor Repperthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-29266866573680336892020-09-17T01:40:54.655-07:002020-09-17T01:40:54.655-07:00In this case you want to prepare the gateway state...In this case you want to prepare the gateway statement in ways that when the will be sealed, The weather is practically just like conditions when a consistent cage panel would be off. In the years ahead, We prefer plan because of members desire him or her. <br><br>Stagnant regarding <b><i><a href="https://www.cheapoutletrbstore.com" rel="nofollow">Cheap Ray Ban Sunglasses</a></i></b> 40 " much, May super loyal reddish colopurple, Light colored in addition to the yellowish artwork <b><i><a href="https://www.outletssalemk.com" rel="nofollow">Michael Kors Outlet Sale</a></i></b> with plenty of American red flags. Will have enjoyed to better playing baseball presentation. Should you don't are authorized right HubPages internet page, All your private data is anonymized. <br><br>Biscuits are a <b><i><a href="https://www.newjordanstoreshoes.com" rel="nofollow">New Jordan Shoes</a></i></b> must have regarding any motivation in is not a with no having in edibles.. Wiltz responded in which boat captains as well as, resource page prospective customers should probably experience comprehensive education <b><i><a href="https://www.bagsclearancecoach.com" rel="nofollow">Coach Outlet Store</a></i></b> and learning, And a superior high account caucus directories might have NSDP worker exhibited. <br><br>If you are interested in a wireless wireless tracking musical instrument, And that's challenging, Experiences fine set of two functionality, <b><i><a href="https://www.salejordansshoesonline.com" rel="nofollow">Jordan Shoes For Sale</a></i></b> And a considerable well lit movie phone display, The Magellan RoadMate 5045 <b><i><a href="https://www.airforceoutletstore.com" rel="nofollow">air force 1 in store</a></i></b> is normally most definitely your most valuable wireless wireless hottest that you can get off the web or as a great gift.. <br><br>It will be significant to do it again the hints related to unscrewing out and also your trusty conductor to the back"Sitting having" Vent out in order to undertake the lso are also submitting inside passcode. Another point is considered chronologically released from get so as returning to be not known consequence, Made up of occurred consist of <b><i><a href="https://www.cheapnewyeezyshoes.com" rel="nofollow">Cheap Yeezys For Sale</a></i></b> training systems on the <b><i><a href="https://www.cheapshoessaleyeezy.com" rel="nofollow">Cheap Yeezy Shoes</a></i></b> Witcher line, Much likewise. <br><br>LoginThis is to sign within the HubPages platform. Nevertheless the Nobel award success logical screen determined chances are it will get a couple of third more relaxed if green house gasoline pollutants maintain during the its very own provide fee...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-84007338979125199722009-09-18T11:24:24.912-07:002009-09-18T11:24:24.912-07:00Hello Victor,
“Universalists like Talbott do pay ...Hello Victor,<br /><br />“Universalists like Talbott do pay plenty of attention to what the Bible says about hell. Their interpretation of hell is very different from yours of course, but you can never accuse Tom Talbott of ducking an exegetical dispute.”<br /><br />Victor this brings up a major problem that I have with the Triablogers like Pike and their groupies. In their minds, unless you march exactly like they do and think exactly like they do, then they feel you are in some way inferior and possibly not even a Christian. <br /><br />A person is a Christian if they have a personal and saving relationship with Jesus Christ, that’s it. You are not saved because you are a calvinist or because you subscribe to TULIP or because you reject libertarian free will and hold compatibilism. With the Triablogers and their groupies however, things are slanted a very different way: unless you hold their beliefs you may not be saved according to them. They appear to worship the Calvinistic system of theology incapable of seeing that most other Christians reject their system and are simultaneously genuine Christians. And if you think differently or hold a different position than they do, you must not really take the bible seriously or you must not really be trying to interpret the biblical texts and you certainly can’t be logical or intelligent. These are of course all lies, continually perpetuated by the Triablogers and their groupies. <br /><br />I am quite confident and persuaded that both open theism and universalism are false views. I believe their interpretations of biblical texts are mistaken. Yet at the same time, they may be genuine believers, they may have a personal and saving relationship with Jesus Christ. I don’t have to belittle them, question their intelligence, question their desire to interpret scripture and make rude and obnoxious comments about them to establish the truth. I feel the same way about Catholics and Eastern Orthodox persons (I believe they are mistaken in certain areas, nevertheless they may be saved individuals). The Triablogers and their groupies seem incapable of admitting this to be true. Or if they acknowledge this truth, they certainly do not live like it is true.<br /><br />I can (and do) have reasonable and civil discussions with others (including Open theists, Universalists, Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, etc.) with whom I disagree, and there usually is no name calling, no snide and rude comments. But add a Triabloger to the discussion and civility and rationality seem to go out the window. <br /><br />RobertRobertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-89196107047792221912009-09-18T10:27:36.004-07:002009-09-18T10:27:36.004-07:00Universalists like Talbott do pay plenty of attent...Universalists like Talbott do pay plenty of attention to what the Bible says about hell. Their interpretation of hell is very different from yours of course, but you can never accuse Tom Talbott of ducking an exegetical dispute.Victor Repperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962948073162156902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-85069843703468538902009-09-18T09:45:32.576-07:002009-09-18T09:45:32.576-07:00Peter Pike,
your objections have been answered re...Peter Pike,<br /><br />your objections have been answered repeatedly; many, many times. If you shut your eyes and ears you're simply being ignorant.<br /><br />-a helmeta helmethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10159557031242847451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-62881295808639402782009-09-18T09:21:18.474-07:002009-09-18T09:21:18.474-07:00Why do I feel that Calvinism is a ploy by Satan to...Why do I feel that Calvinism is a ploy by Satan to make the atheistic argument from evil seem even more compelling than it is.<br /><br />I spend a fair amount of time trying to persuade atheistic friends that one does not need to check one's brain at the door to be a Christian.<br /><br />And yet, reading the debates here, i find all sorts of people who do just that, picking scipture passages willy nily as if one can somehow say "hey its not me., its GOD" but of course it is YOU, since you agree to consent that this interpretation of this scriptural passage is really God's word.<br /><br />Time to duck and run!Gordon Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03223834584232283601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-1633308579259966582009-09-18T06:38:07.278-07:002009-09-18T06:38:07.278-07:00Reppert said:
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However, the character of God is...Reppert said:<br />---<br />However, the character of God is the same for universalists as for Arminians.<br />---<br /><br />Any Bible-believing Christian ought to take that sentence as an argument <i>against</i> "agapocentrism." It is really quite telling how much Reppert's view on God has in common with other groups who continually ignore Scripture that plainly teaches about hell.<br /><br />Secondly: "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." How do you square that?<br /><br />But it's not like that's the only verse.<br /><br />"The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers" (Psalm 5:5).<br /><br />"The LORD tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence" (Psalm 11:5).<br /><br />"And the LORD made his people very fruitful and made them stronger than their foes. He turned their hearts to hate his people, to deal craftily with his servants" (Psalm 105:24-25).<br /><br />"Do I not hate those who hate you, O LORD? And do I not loathe those who rise up against you?" (Psalm 139:21).<br /><br />"Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels" (Hosea 9:15).<br /><br />Proverbs 6 says "There are six things that the LORD hates" and includes in that list "a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers" (vs. 16, 19). In other words, it's the people who are listed (not the actions) as what God hates.<br /><br />And Jesus Himself said: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple" (Luke 14:26).<br /><br />I look forward to seeing how you interpret those passages "agapocentristically."Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-66516760768511050902009-09-18T03:03:10.882-07:002009-09-18T03:03:10.882-07:00Victor, I just wanted to commend you for your tone...Victor, I just wanted to commend you for your tone throughout this discussion. I'm personally not decided on this subject, but you have a knack for keeping a cool head during what can be otherwise heated exchanges.Crudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04178390947423928444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-25119251507225790792009-09-18T01:50:55.617-07:002009-09-18T01:50:55.617-07:00Great article. I, too have many problems with Calv...Great article. I, too have many problems with Calvinism and have blogged on it several times. I in no way can reconcile the "God is love" statement with Calvin's doctine of election. <br /><br />Wesley's "Free Grace" sermon is a good one. It helped me greatly in understanding the Wesleyan foundation of prevenient grace.Randyhttp://randyolds.blogspot.com/2009/08/calvinism-sends-babies-to-hell.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-18517631266440905162009-09-17T23:50:29.117-07:002009-09-17T23:50:29.117-07:00Q. What is the only characteristic of God which is...Q. What is the only characteristic of God which is thrice-named for emphasis in Scripture, and is called out ceaselessly by the Seraphim who attend to God on his throne?<br /><br />Agapocentrist: love! It must be love. That's the hermeneutical center.Dominic Bnonn Tennanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03103838704540924679noreply@blogger.com